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Tuesday, September 15, 2009
Carter is Not Afraid
While he is putting words to my precise thoughts, I nearly fell over when I heard this from Jimmy Carter on the news tonight. Thank God for his honesty.
Mr. Carter has to be a little clearer in his claims. If he is saying the personal attacks are race based then yes after seeing the posters and hearing some of the comments I agree. But if he is saying as others are that sincere opposition to policy is race based then he is way way off base and only adds to the growing schism in our society. While no supporter of the incompetence of GWB I do have to wonder where Mr. Carter was when GWB was called a nazi, facist etc. etc. I find it comical that a year later the left says calling someone a nazi is abhorrent even racist yet for the better part of 6 years it some had no problem using the term or worse to describe bush. Of course only those who live in a free country regardless of political orientation can be stupid enough to call anyone a nazi because of political views. Go to Iran, Burma, Cuba, Russia, China, Hugoland you get the picture, call their leaders nazis and then you WILL know what it means to live in a totalitarian country. I make no distinction between leftist or rightest totalitarianism. So lets call racism racism where it exists and drop the nazi and socialist insults.
Not sure how smart it is to label as 'racist' any opposition to Obama's ideas. Barnicle just called it 'political arson' on Morning Joe.
Playing the race card didn't work out too well for Bill Clinton in the South Carolina primary, although Andrew Cuomo didn't pay much of a price when he called the Obama campaign a 'shuck and jive act.'
It is political arson in the sense that rather than saying the clown with the obama as a witch doctor poster is a racist for example, the insinuation from some of the Dems talking heads is that most or all opposition is race based. If John Kerry or Hillary Clinton was President are we to assume that opposition to Obama's policies if done by them would be any less? Of course not, the difference would however be that the racial angle would be gone.
OK, but why is everyone who criticizes Sarah Palin considered a sexist by so many conservative pundits?
Prolly becuase it's ususlly followed by what a "dumb biotch" she is or other derogatory remark.
As far a Carter goes...I had to put up with him once in my life time, that was more than this country could bare. I just wish he'd shut up and move to Palestine where his jew hating heart really resides. BTW, the over use of the Race card has now decimated it's power to invoke disgust or disdain. I'm hearing more and more that it's moving closer to a badge of honor, a right of passage to challange the "Post Racial President". It was said from day one that once people started to question the "ONE" they would be labeled racists as a means of shutting down debate. Oh well, I'm a racist, big deal, nobody really cares anymore, and useful idiots like Carter are to blame.
Weird to see your blog under attack form all these teabaggers all of a sudden, although it HAS been mighty entertaining. Love your responses to them too, Bob. That last one was the bomb!
Bob: Anyone who criticizes Palin for her lack of political acumen is right not sexist. And anything I said about Carters and others forays into the use of race equally apply to conservatives who try to stifle legitimate debate of issues by raising false charges of sexism or whatever. For to long now real debate has been squelched by one side or the other by applying names to opponents to hide the fact they may not be able to defend their positions. I think it is a sad atate that those who use terms like nazi for example don't really have a clue how horrible it was to live in nazi dominated countries. I would suggest that those who would label political opponents with that hideous name to talk to survivors of the nazi death camps or those who liberated them. Only the American people get screwed by such nonsense, and it is sad when one side denounces it while denying they do the same that really is why I could never belong to any party. I have no partisan bone to pick with either side politically I vote for who I feel is the best candidate period. As such I only give my feelings on a given subject sometime left sometimes right mostly centered. If that makes me a tea bagger Lakezorian well that says far more about your political fairplay than myself.
No partisan, I couldn't agree with you more. One of the greatest lessons, I believe, from Ted Kennedy's career is that -- just because you disagree with someone, it doesn't make that person your enemy. It saddens me to no end that such a concept is now considered quaint and naive.
Here's another take: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/09/no-republicans-for-healthcare-reform.html
Yeah, I remember that, Charles. In the context of what he was saying, he mentioned Obama when he was a child being raised by a working mom, so the word "boy" in this case wasn't intended as the usual racist pejorative. Granted, it wasn't the wisest choice of words, but I'm sure you can see that it wasn't meant to be any sort of a putdown.
Good to see the ultra-conservative Washington Times is doing their part to spread discord, though. Because anything that dis-empowers the president is good for the country, or something like that I'm sure.
Do you really think Carter is sincere? Or is he race baiting?
I'm not gonna pretend to be able to read his mind like he claims he can read other people's minds. He's been a senile fool for quite some time now, not sure why anyone takes him seriously anymore. He's certainly not doing the White House any favors...
Yesterday was a sterling example of why in my opinion President Obama can be a great leader. While I don't always agree policy wise, what he had Gibbs say yesterday was fantastic. The statement that the Whitehouse doesn't think race plays a major role in opposition to his programs will go a long way to marginalising those who are racist and negate the corrosive effect of those who would promote the demonization of all opponents. Are there racists? of course but attempts by both sides to capitalize on the race factor have been shot through the heart. The right (Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity) can't play the victim card, and the left (Olberman, Maddow,Shultz) will only lose credibility by pushing an idea that President Obama himself dismisses. All in all it was a great day for civil political discourse in this country. A small victory? Perhaps but an example of what a real LEADER does in troubled times. In the end if the only thing this President accomplishes is the end or at least the sweeping into a corner of the vocal extremists and political haters of both wings, then he will have the unending thanks of the VAST MAJORITY of this country. Great job Mr. President.
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Mr. Carter has to be a little clearer in his claims. If he is saying the personal attacks are race based then yes after seeing the posters and hearing some of the comments I agree. But if he is saying as others are that sincere opposition to policy is race based then he is way way off base and only adds to the growing schism in our society. While no supporter of the incompetence of GWB I do have to wonder where Mr. Carter was when GWB was called a nazi, facist etc. etc. I find it comical that a year later the left says calling someone a nazi is abhorrent even racist yet for the better part of 6 years it some had no problem using the term or worse to describe bush. Of course only those who live in a free country regardless of political orientation can be stupid enough to call anyone a nazi because of political views. Go to Iran, Burma, Cuba, Russia, China, Hugoland you get the picture, call their leaders nazis and then you WILL know what it means to live in a totalitarian country. I make no distinction between leftist or rightest totalitarianism. So lets call racism racism where it exists and drop the nazi and socialist insults.
Not sure how smart it is to label as 'racist' any opposition to Obama's ideas. Barnicle just called it 'political arson' on Morning Joe.
Playing the race card didn't work out too well for Bill Clinton in the South Carolina primary, although Andrew Cuomo didn't pay much of a price when he called the Obama campaign a 'shuck and jive act.'
It is political arson in the sense that rather than saying the clown with the obama as a witch doctor poster is a racist for example, the insinuation from some of the Dems talking heads is that most or all opposition is race based. If John Kerry or Hillary Clinton was President are we to assume that opposition to Obama's policies if done by them would be any less? Of course not, the difference would however be that the racial angle would be gone.
OK, but why is everyone who criticizes Sarah Palin considered a sexist by so many conservative pundits?
OK, but why is everyone who criticizes Sarah Palin considered a sexist by so many conservative pundits?
Prolly becuase it's ususlly followed by what a "dumb biotch" she is or other derogatory remark.
As far a Carter goes...I had to put up with him once in my life time, that was more than this country could bare. I just wish he'd shut up and move to Palestine where his jew hating heart really resides.
BTW, the over use of the Race card has now decimated it's power to invoke disgust or disdain. I'm hearing more and more that it's moving closer to a badge of honor, a right of passage to challange the "Post Racial President". It was said from day one that once people started to question the "ONE" they would be labeled racists as a means of shutting down debate.
Oh well, I'm a racist, big deal, nobody really cares anymore, and useful idiots like Carter are to blame.
So, Carter made you a racist?
Wow.
Weird to see your blog under attack form all these teabaggers all of a sudden, although it HAS been mighty entertaining. Love your responses to them too, Bob. That last one was the bomb!
Bob: Anyone who criticizes Palin for her lack of political acumen is right not sexist. And anything I said about Carters and others forays into the use of race equally apply to conservatives who try to stifle legitimate debate of issues by raising false charges of sexism or whatever. For to long now real debate has been squelched by one side or the other by applying names to opponents to hide the fact they may not be able to defend their positions. I think it is a sad atate that those who use terms like nazi for example don't really have a clue how horrible it was to live in nazi dominated countries. I would suggest that those who would label political opponents with that hideous name to talk to survivors of the nazi death camps or those who liberated them. Only the American people get screwed by such nonsense, and it is sad when one side denounces it while denying they do the same that really is why I could never belong to any party. I have no partisan bone to pick with either side politically I vote for who I feel is the best candidate period. As such I only give my feelings on a given subject sometime left sometimes right mostly centered. If that makes me a tea bagger Lakezorian well that says far more about your political fairplay than myself.
No partisan, I couldn't agree with you more. One of the greatest lessons, I believe, from Ted Kennedy's career is that -- just because you disagree with someone, it doesn't make that person your enemy. It saddens me to no end that such a concept is now considered quaint and naive.
Here's another take:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/09/no-republicans-for-healthcare-reform.html
Flashback Video: Carter referred to Obama as 'this black boy'
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2009/sep/16/flashback-video-carter-referred-obama-black-boy/
Yeah, I remember that, Charles. In the context of what he was saying, he mentioned Obama when he was a child being raised by a working mom, so the word "boy" in this case wasn't intended as the usual racist pejorative. Granted, it wasn't the wisest choice of words, but I'm sure you can see that it wasn't meant to be any sort of a putdown.
Good to see the ultra-conservative Washington Times is doing their part to spread discord, though. Because anything that dis-empowers the president is good for the country, or something like that I'm sure.
Do you really think Carter is sincere? Or is he race baiting?
I'm not gonna pretend to be able to read his mind like he claims he can read other people's minds. He's been a senile fool for quite some time now, not sure why anyone takes him seriously anymore. He's certainly not doing the White House any favors...
Yesterday was a sterling example of why in my opinion President Obama can be a great leader. While I don't always agree policy wise, what he had Gibbs say yesterday was fantastic. The statement that the Whitehouse doesn't think race plays a major role in opposition to his programs will go a long way to marginalising those who are racist and negate the corrosive effect of those who would promote the demonization of all opponents. Are there racists? of course but attempts by both sides to capitalize on the race factor have been shot through the heart. The right (Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity) can't play the victim card, and the left (Olberman, Maddow,Shultz) will only lose credibility by pushing an idea that President Obama himself dismisses. All in all it was a great day for civil political discourse in this country. A small victory? Perhaps but an example of what a real LEADER does in troubled times. In the end if the only thing this President accomplishes is the end or at least the sweeping into a corner of the vocal extremists and political haters of both wings, then he will have the unending thanks of the VAST MAJORITY of this country. Great job Mr. President.
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