Thursday, September 28, 2006

Votes For and Against Torture

Read it and weep. There is so much to say about this travesty, but for the moment, let the votes speak for themselves. Simply put, a yay vote is FOR torture (or the GWB amnesty act, making the torture that has already been carried out a do-over "never mind" issue). ** indicates a D seat being voted on this year.

YEAs ---65
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Burr (R-NC)
**Carper (D-DE)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)

**Lieberman (D-CT)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
**Menendez (D-NJ)
Murkowski (R-AK)
**Nelson (D-FL)
**Nelson (D-NE)

Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Specter (R-PA)
**Stabenow (D-MI)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

Do these D Senators deserve your vote? Let us know in the comments

NAYs ---34
**Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
**Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
**Byrd (D-WV)
**Cantwell (D-WA)

Chafee (R-RI) -- (the only R to vote nay, up for re-election)
**Clinton (D-NY)
**Conrad (D-ND)
**Dayton (D-MN)

Dodd (D-CT) at least we have one!
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
**Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
**Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
**Kohl (D-WI)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
**Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Wyden (D-OR)


CT Bob said...

Of COURSE Lieberman voted YEA. Why wouldn't he?


Gary said...

Absolutely NOT. Any Democrat would be a fool to vote for any representative who voted "yea". Especially if they live in FL, NJ, NE or MI.

Send them a message.

Stay home on election day!

That'll learn 'em!

kirby said...

But, this presents a moral dilemma, no? If we get out the Vapo-Rub, and put it under our noses to kill the smell, at least they will contribute to a D majority. Is it worth throwing away the chance for D control that can investigate these SOBs??

Maybe we need to think in the gutter like the R strategists do, get down there with them and fight this to the bitter end on Nov 7. It will be hard, and fortunately, we have the Lamont option -- but don't lose sight of the big picture -- taking control of Congress.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Kirby. The most important first step is to win back control of at least one house of Congress. Doesn't pay to stay home on election day or vote against those Democrats who disgraced both themselves and this country. Each of their Republican opponents would have voted the same way, only with twice as much enthusiasm.

The country in which we were raised no longer exists. We now officially reside in a police state run by a tin horn dictator. I never thought I'd live to see this country destroyed by its own elected officials, while an indifferent electorate shrugs and turns its attention to the latest celebrity gossip.

Maureen from Boston said...

The most sickening part of this bill is not just the TORTURE,it is the fact that hidden in the bill is a law that will protect Bush and his Administration from War Crimes..particularly from the Geneva Convention rules...They could all be tried and convicted and there is even a death penalty...this is not being publicized...WHY?? WHY?? WHY?? Bush and his buddies will all be pardoned by the law! Nice huh? This should be held against not only the Republicans and of course LIEberman..this should be enough to have the CT voters to go against him...hope Lamont will put an ad about it. The information is out there...just need to find the printed part...Hope you all do something about it...Thanks.

Naraka said...

Many of the D's that voted Yea, did so to force their R opposition to take a Nay position. This was nothing more than an attempt by the Republican party to create more fuel to burn to try and fire up their dwindling base. I believe this will be tossed as Unconstitutional. This is why I believe it isn't getting the media attention it deserves, it's smoke and mirrors, and nothing ultimately, will come of it.

Or at least I hope so.

Anonymous said...

Lieberman is unbelievable. Atrios has a quote from him when he was banning video games about how they were teaching kids to enjoy torture. I guess he's been playing them on the down-low, because he seeme to cozy right up to it.
He is such a pimple on the ass of this country.

CT Bob said...

naraka, I don't understand your rational. Dems voted Yea to force Repugs to vote Nay? Only Lincoln Chaffee (R-RI) voted against the bill. Otherwise it was a solid Republican block and there were also Democratic suck-ups joining the fray.

Even anti-torture hypocrite John McCain voted FOR the bill. Funny how his boundless ambition was strong enough for him to sell out his most deeply held convictions.

They're all political whores.

And if you're trusting the Supreme Court to rule favorably on protecting the Constitution...

Anonymous said...

"They're all political whores."

Absolutely true.

However, if there is to be any hope at all, we're all going to have to wine, dine, date, and sleep with the least repugnant of those whores currently available to us. Both Unclaimed Territory and Mahablog contain lengthy and persuasive posts on this topic, so I won't repeat the arguments here.

gchaucer2 said...

This vote is THE most important issue. I would like Ned to put the meaning of that bill in simple terms, deliver it to the Independent base and hammer home what Joe's vote means. I understand from one of the blogs that he waited until the very last vote.

After continually slamming Democrats (oops, almost wrote "fellow" by mistake) and falling into lockstep with the Terror-thugs, Lieberman should be bashed on this issue.

Of any vote out of this bill, I have the hightest regard for Lincoln Chaffee. I know that goes against the grain here, but I think he was brave, and I'd rather have a brave moderate republican than anyone of those bastard Dems that voted for that bill.

Anonymous said...

gc said:

"Of any vote out of this bill, I have the hightest regard for Lincoln Chaffee. I know that goes against the grain here, but I think he was brave, and I'd rather have a brave moderate republican than anyone of those bastard Dems that voted for that bill."


Remember two important points. First, Chafee is running for reelection in Rhode Island. Much to their credit, the people of Rhode Island despise the actions taken by the Cheney Administration more than the people of any other State in the nation. For Chafee, this vote was no act of courage. It was merely part of an effort to survive the November election.

Second, absolutely nothing Chafee thinks, does, or says has any impact whatsoever as long as he continues to vote to elect a Republican to lead the Senate. His vote against the torture bill proves that point.

Bergs said...

WOW, I have been dreaming of an Ad all day long, of Lieberman next to that poor slob in Black! And here it is.

This is as good as the KISS float. A picture is worth a thousand words! Let's see if we can't run with this picture on every blog, and youtubes with various torture scenes and Lieberman.

Get the voters in the Gut!

harriet said...

This bill is the most egregious act done by our government that has just violated the every moral code of our democracy. It affirms the following:
(1) allowing the President to define torture, (2) stripping the court of judicial review via habeas corpus (even though the Constitution does not allow this except in cases of invasion or Rebellion) and (3) allowing the President to jail American citizens arbitrarily and without court review!

This bill had NOTHING to do with our safety, but EVERYTHING to do with protecting Bush's ass and giving him a free “get out of jail” card!

Joe Lieberman, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, John McCain(McCave) and the rest of the rubber stamping Republicans are just turning their backs and allowing Bush to turn this country into a police state!

Anonymous said...

a dozen dems voted for this, so itd be stupid to single lieberman out.

CT Bob said...

anonymous, keep in mind that the majority of readers here are CT residents. We can't do much about Salazar, Menendez, or the "Nelson Twins", but we CAN do something about Lieberman.

We can send him home in January and get a Senator who values our rights.

And also remember that Lieberman loudly proclaims his "leadership role" in the Senate, so that means he's ever MORE at fault for not leading the opposition to this law.

NewLondonDem said...

I mentioned the bill once out canvassing today. The woman I spoke with didn't really understand it and didn't have much opinion on it. When I spelled out for her what the bill said, you should have seen her eyes widen. "It says what? It allows what? It gives the President that power? No, I don't trust him either. Lieberman voted for that?"
She was leaning Lieberman until I knocked on her door. It was gratifying.

CT Bob said...

NLDem, you can't imagine how happy that story makes me!

It's just too bad that it takes "torture" to open people's eyes.

mdsnurse5 said...

Found your blog searching roll call for the democratic votes on Leahy-Specter bill. I cry for my country when bills like this are voted down. I've been disillusioned and hopeless watching the American Public do nothing to stop this police state. Thank you for your blog...reading the postings has given me hope that there are people out there who see what is REALLY going on. Hope you guys are successful in tossing Lieberman (why doesn't he just change parties? The asshole.). I'm in MA and I'm still angry that Kerry did nothing when that student was tasered. Really breaks my heart when I see a democrat do nothing to stop police brutality. I fear for future generations, but thanks again for the spark of hope you people have given me.